Rupture of Membranes

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In the past over 5yrs ago we used Amnisure as a test for rupture of membranes.  We eliminated the test when we started getting erroneous results.  We now have several new OB/GYN providers that are looking to bring back some sort of testing for ROM.  So I am turning to the masses to find out what others are using for their testing.  If you could let me know what you are currently using and the pros and cons as you see it for your method it would be greatly appreciated.   Thanks

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Nitrazine paper and Fern testing.


 


Susan L. Alford


Laboratory Point of Care Coordinator


Nanticoke Health Services


801 Middleford Road


Seaford, DE 19973


Phone: 302-629-6611 Ext. 2560


Fax: 302-628-6352








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We have used Amnisure and Nitrazine pH tesing for years, without erroneous results.  We are looking at switching to Fern Testing (which has awful results) due to insurance providers declining the Amnisure as Experimental.

We have the Amnisure now and a few providers perform Fern testing. We are about to trial Actim-Prom as it is cheaper, is not affected by blood, gels, powders etc. The nurses really wanted Actim-Prom due to only having to insert the swab vaginally for 10-15 seconds instead of 1 minute for Amnisure. We will see what the coorelation study looks like.

We currently use Amnisure, but we don't do it entirely POC. We were having issues with nursing staff not entering test results in the patient chart, so we switched to having nurses collect the specimen and send it to the lab for the actual test. We haven't really had any issues with testing since then.


I spoke with a rep about Actim PROM, but we opted not to look too much into switching due to the limitations on gestational age (>/= 29 weeks only). They are approved in other countries for all gestational ages but are waiting on clearance in the US.

We validated an ROM test in the lab all of my labs with an L/D unit. It used to be Aminsure...but we then validated another one that is cheaper.


We removed the pH swabs at the time the kits were validated in the lab. Reimbursement is good and we have had no issues with it.

We use Rom Plus. Easy test and rep was very helpful with training. 

I know this discussion goes back a few months, but I was wondering for those of you who use the AmniSure or AmnioTest assays for POC, are you successful with having residents perform this test and entering results in the patient chart so that the patient can be billed?
We currently have residents perform the test, with the nurses responsible for entering the results manually into the Nova Glucose meters in order to bill for the tests performed. Unfortunately, the nurses are failing miserably at this, so we never get paid for the tests performed. Fortunately the results are still documented by the physician/resident in the physician notes section of the patient chart, but that isn't tracked for billing purposes either.
Any guidance would be very welcomed!

Michael, at our facility that was a big concern, getting reimbursed for this test because the kits are expensive. What we do is have the Physician place an order in our LISS, the Nurse will collect the swab and bring it to the Laboratory. I do realize that the nurses could perform the test, but our fear was that there would be a hit or miss that they were inputting it correctly. Remember this comes from spending time with them and knowing that they are nurses and think differently the Laboratory people. I am not saying all, nurses care for the patient, where as we think about the regulations, reimbursement, and all the documentation that has to go with it, I feel that it is the way we are wired.


 


dave m


WE do the same as David McGowan’s.


The nurses collect the sample, prepare tube,  bring the tube to the lab,  and the lab completes the test,


Bills the tests and make sure the result is in the EMR and the patient is charged for the test.


The lab does the QC and we rotate users.


Also we did not have to train as many people like we would if the nurses do the test.


 There are a whole lot more of them than lab staff.


Lab people can troubleshoot and understand what could be causing the problem.


They are better at calling tech support is there is a problem.


The lab  buys the kits  but uses L&D account, so L&D  pay for the kit.


WE make sure that collection is documented.


The department director or an authorized nurse  does the training and Competency check on sample  collection


The lab does the Proficiency testing and Competency testing on the test procedure.   


We are looking at reverting to Fern Testing due to insurers declining to cover the Amnisure, calling it unproven and experimental.


 


Does anyone get their Amnisure reimbursed? 

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