Pediatric ECMO Prime Gas

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Prime gases for ECMO

Does anyone's Perfusion team or ECMO activation team run prime gases before putting a patient on ECMO?  I am trying to figure out if these results should cross the patient's chart, bill the patient, and how to create an order in RALS and Epic to do so. 



Any information is greatly appreciated.

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I asked our ECMO manager. Here is his response:
As for this question, for all blood primed circuits, we do a circuit gas.  The most common things that I look at in that gas are the PCO2 and PaO2, is the oxygenator doing its job.  Then I look at the Bicarb, make sure it is not too low.  Finally, I look at the K, to make sure it is not too high.  On a 3 kg patient, their estimated blood volume is 240 ml.  My smallest circuit has nearly the same priming volume, so those patients get a complete exchange.  So I want to make sure that what I attach to them, won't hurt them more...When we do the circuit gases, they end up in the chart, which I like, since this is something I can use to show that I attached a safe circuit to the patient.  Most times, we treat it like any other gas when we select it on the Istat.

Hope this is helpful!

To answer your question,

Yes, staff perform priming testing in both Ecmo and CVOR circulatory pumps using the POC analyzers.  This testing is done on the fluid prior to the patient blood being introduced... so it's NOT representative of the patient's condition. The users run these samples using a specific "Patient ID" so that the POC teams knows what it is and documents it as such in the POC middleware.  These test results do NOT go to the patients EMR where there is the potential of having these results misinterpreted as actual patient values.
After the patients' blood is introduced to the circulatory pumps the users use the patients' actual ID and these test result are uploaded into the EMR.

Yes, at our facility, they do a prime sample when initiating the pumps. We have Telcor and are switching from Sunquest to Epic in the fall. We have Telcor set up to receive pump arterial or venous samples if selected. Telcor sends that sample type to Epic and in Epic we have it as a different test code than the normal ABG vs. VBG and electrolytes. That way it displays PUMP right in the name. We cross pump ACT, lactate, pH, pCO2, pO2, BE, HCO3, iCA, Na, K, and Glucose.  

Hi! 

Our perfusion teams use the prime gas (circuit gas) function on our GEMs. We have a special sample type that they can select on the GEMs when these gases are performed. The way we have it built in our LIS system is that it does drop into the patient's chart, but they will not trend with any other blood gas samples; no charge is dropped since it is not a true sample (premixed fluid), and only staff can review these results, not dropped in My Chart for patient review. It also has a specific order name to distinguish it from other blood gas samples.  

Britany Peavler, what is the special sample type on the GEM? Did you have to configure this through Werfren? What LIS are you using? Did you have to create a new panel type in the LIS to then flow into Epic? 

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